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Messagepar TheDead » 08 Juil 2008, 12:05

Character Rankings

This list as well as the notes come from Arcadia. They didn't have any copy for Freed, so I took a stab at that one. Also I moved Olivia from A-class to B-class and Coyori from S-class to A-class per online discussions.

Where there was complaining about character balance on the net, it was mostly about Cedric and his St. Drop Kick attack. Ced's position at the top wasn't reflected much in tournament results, however. I've included those below so you can see for yourself.
S Class
Cedric
Keeping his opponents pinned down with low-recovery projectiles is Cedric's speciality. His Holy Devotion hits very quickly, which makes it good for air defense or reversals. Although Cedric has some good pokes, he's got scant low attacks [especially if D is held down for St. Drop Kicks] so he's limited to normal throws if he wants to break his opponent's defense.

Ashley
Ashley's ability to turn a Gachi Drive into an infinite combo is a big weapon, but his basic abilities are strong to begin with. These include speedy jump attacks, command throws with decent range and various moves that leave his opponent open to follow-ups. His Heat Up can be used for a high/low mix-up plus big damage. Ashley doesn't have any invincible moves; lack of a quick reversal is one weak point.

A Class
Face
Face has fierce sequential attacks, plus the quick start-up for his Texas Knee and super moves give him an outstanding interrupt and anti-air ability. Quick start-up on the Kouya no Bazooka, in particular, makes it difficult to Gachi. If your opponent tries to stop the sequential attacks using Gachi, you can be in trouble, however. Mix up high/low and use feints [hold the button down during Wild Comeback and Frontier Shot] to baffle their counter attempts or you'll get killed by a couple Gachi Drive combos.

DeathBringer
DeathBringer's great range lets him keep is opponent at a distance. He's also got devastating combos off of Gachi Drive hits and good normal throw range. Up close, however, slow moves and a lack of invincible attacks means you'll have to struggle. Whether or not the opposing character can block and counter Death's pokes will change the match-up dramatically.

Donvalve
Good command throws and the huge far standing C are Don's primary weapons. Close C -> Flying Don Cake is a fierce anti-air combo. His crouching A is the fastest in the game. Donvalve was ranked at the top in the spring ('07), but he fell a bit as people became more adept at avoiding his command grabs.

Coyori
Multi-hit jump attacks, Uraban Cha mix-ups and big hit confirms off weak attacks put Coyori in the top tier [or not.] She lacks any mid range moves, however, and her constant assault is a big target for Gachi Match/Drive attempts.

Urs
Urs's excellent hit confirms and big combos plus his terrific counter attack ability give him a lot of stability. He has the potential to go head-to-head with the top tier group. On the other hand, Urs has few good mid range moves and his throw whiff animation is longer than the rest of the cast. Avoiding counters up close is key.

Freed
Freed can deal a huge amount of damage in a very short amount of time. Welcome Tempest is a very handy reversal move. Outside of Heat Up! trickery, however, he doesn't have many mix-ups beyond attack/throw. Predictable Magun Jetter attacks can get him in trouble vs. Gachi Drive, too.

Odile & Dokurod
Odile's strengths lie in multi-hit special moves, the cross-up dash and quick Petite Pirouette attacks from the air. She can be tough to Gachi or throw so she can really pin some characters down. Odile's damage off of Gachi combos is poor which means she's in trouble when they go on offense. It seems like her position on the ranks could fall as more research is conducted.

Marco
Although he has some standard attacks and a strong okiseme ability, Marco pokes and the low damage they get him, low health and a short jump arc mean he tends to get out-ranged. Since he has a wide variety of attacks, if you can close the gap you'll be in a strong position.

B Class
Olivia
Olivia's normal move pokes and angled jump attacks are both remarkable. She lacks mix-ups and it's tough to hit confirm unless you're very close. Combo damage is also meager so she's fallen into the bottom tier. If Olivia only had an invincible special move she'd probably be ranked higher.

Watson
Leveling up can be arduous; plus lacking any worthwhile attacks beyond throw and jump C at level 1 makes things tough for Watson. Score a Gachi early in the fight to make things much easier.

source:http://curryallergy.blogspot.com/2008/03/battle-fantasia-blowout.html

récapitulatif:

S Class:Cedric-Ashley

A Class:Face-DeathBringer-Donvalve-Coyori-Urs-Freed-
Odile & Dokurod-Marco

B Class:Olivia-Watson
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Après ce qui me rebute surtout sur ce jeu, outre les graphismes de Commodore 64, c'est surtout l'univers otaque/loli/moé/waifu qui dégouline de partout.
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Messagepar camo » 08 Juil 2008, 14:31

Pourquoi dans la section 3D ? :shock:
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Messagepar SRG » 08 Juil 2008, 15:53

camo a écrit:Pourquoi dans la section 3D ? :shock:


C'est toi qu'est dans une autre dimension !
C'est auch.
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Messagepar Bridget » 08 Juil 2008, 20:53

Ca dépend du point de vue. Pour moi, le gameplay sur 2D. On peut mettre kof 2002 ps2 dans cette section avec les nouveaux décords. :D
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Messagepar camo » 10 Juil 2008, 13:02

Non mais BF c'est pas un jeu 3D c'est tout. :D

Y'a pas de step que je sache... :)
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Messagepar ORO » 18 Juil 2008, 11:10

Generalement ce type de Jeux est classé "Jeux 2.5D" Exactement comme RumbleFish2

Apres c'est souvent plus Ambigu pour un jeu comme ProjectJustice (RivalSchools) avec un Gameplay 2D mais juste avec l'ajout d'une esquive dans le fond de l'ecran
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Messagepar Bridget » 18 Juil 2008, 12:51

ORO a écrit:Generalement ce type de Jeux est classé "Jeux 2.5D" Exactement comme RumbleFish2

Apres c'est souvent plus Ambigu pour un jeu comme ProjectJustice (RivalSchools) avec un Gameplay 2D mais juste avec l'ajout d'une esquive dans le fond de l'ecran


Euh... Je comprend plus rien là ... L'esquive du S-groove dans CVS2 est aussi considérée comme une esquive dans le fond de l'écran? Ce serait un jeu 2D avec un gameplay 3D!?! :shock:
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Messagepar Dita Von Teese » 18 Juil 2008, 14:56

Bridget a écrit:
ORO a écrit:Generalement ce type de Jeux est classé "Jeux 2.5D" Exactement comme RumbleFish2

Apres c'est souvent plus Ambigu pour un jeu comme ProjectJustice (RivalSchools) avec un Gameplay 2D mais juste avec l'ajout d'une esquive dans le fond de l'ecran


Euh... Je comprend plus rien là ... L'esquive du S-groove dans CVS2 est aussi considérée comme une esquive dans le fond de l'écran? Ce serait un jeu 2D avec un gameplay 3D!?! :shock:


Y a quand même une sacrée différence, sur Rival Schools t'arrive sur une autre ligne, et ton esquive permet d'attaquer sur le cà´té aussi... Enfin bon, dans ce cas que dire des Fatal Fury avec plusieurs lignes de combat...
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Messagepar TheDead » 18 Juil 2008, 14:59

un step et une second zone de combat même si sur le fond çà  revient a peu près au même sur la forme non

je me suis juste planter de section

battle fantasia jeu 2d avec perso et décor 3d selon moi

après c'est vrai que rival school est ambigu
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Messagepar L » 01 Aoû 2008, 13:26

25 septembre en europe selon micromania sur xbox 360 et ps3
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Messagepar Eldready » 01 Aoû 2008, 15:33

Apparemment il sera que dispo sur 360 (enfin pas annoncé sur ps3 toujours) selon Neo-Arcadia (dommage pour la ps3 de FF Seb...oui, je recommencerais pas, promis)

Ma fois, c'est déjà  une très bonne nouvelle quand même.
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Messagepar TheDead » 26 Jan 2009, 18:23

29 fevrier en europe mais c'est des clown ces gars la :D
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Messagepar Bridget » 26 Jan 2009, 18:58

clair!

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Messagepar Bardiel » 26 Jan 2009, 18:59

Janvier tu veux dire?
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Messagepar Eldready » 26 Jan 2009, 19:17

Oui, j'ai lu janvier aussi...curieux de l'essayer d'ailleurs.
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